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Poster: He Live's Date: Jul 25, 2008 10:05pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: IT's Like A PBJ w/o Enough Peanut Butter............

hello fellow deadhead!

please don;t take me too seriously.... and i don't have tons of details memorized about the dead, their soundsystems or guitars, and only a passing interest in those sort of details....

and usually, i just get off on a particular show or something and spout off a review or post without appropriate care paid to WHAT THE HELL i am saying!

i do have a feeling about 74, and i don't know if it is the sound system, the drugs, the air.... or the fact that almost all the recordings i have on file are AUDs -- but it has never been my favorite. all the years from 72, 73, 74, 76 they are really all SOO DIFFERENT! and 74, i play the least....

so if anything more than a technical statement i would read my flippant comments as, "sounds different than most 74....." but again, the music is the transcendent thing and THAT may not even be really accurate. but that is the best i can do.

as far as WHAT THE F%CK am i saying, i would cite the OMSN from this show as a PRIME EXAMPLE of the "74/Wall of Sound Sound".... the drums are smack dab in the middle, and the cymbals are a complete wash. there is A LOT of SEPARATION between the instruments -- jerry bobby keith and phil sound like they are in those little sound cubicles they put up in a recording studio -- the WOS was designed to give the performers ultimate control of the sound. but what you get is a GIGANTIC FUCKING MONITOR SYSTEM! not a projection of a cohesive whole.

there was a lot of shit in the early days about the monitorsHEY BEAR! FIX THE MONITORS... We cant hear, MAKE IT LOUUUUDER!" you know what i mean right? well i think now, ironically, that in an effort to get past the "monitor problem" the WOS was born...... "there you go fuckers! no more monitors.... you are running the show, completely!"

well, whether that is what happened, or they were successful, this EXTREME EXPERIMENT by the band resulted in a a clear presentation. (the drums were sacrificed.) but not a terribly pleasant and WARM sounding one.

it's like a PBJ without enough PB

This post was modified by He Live's on 2008-07-26 05:05:52

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Poster: elbow1126 Date: Jul 25, 2008 8:05pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: IT's Like A PBJ w/o Enough Peanut Butter............

Got it. Thanks for the reply. I agree that the WOS shows seem to sound a bit more sterile than say shows from 72 or 76. I asked about this a few months ago in a post, wondering if that monitor system also subtracted out the ambient sounds from the show. Regardless I really love the way they played in '74 and will always rank it amongst my favorite years.

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Poster: He Live's Date: Jul 25, 2008 9:16pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: June 21, 1976 (No wall, just liquid.)

it is a GREAT YEAR! like, a lot of this stuff is mystical and unexplainable.... and to a degree i REALLY LIKE the WOS sound.... but it is not something i gravitate to.

if i wanted to have someone hear how instruments in a ROCK band relate to each other, 1974 Grateful Dead is very instructive. you can hear all the instruments perfectly w/o much overlap... and hear how the parts fit together. i just think it is a slightly less enjoyable listening experience, and not HOT LAVA LIQUID....... LIKE I wellllll

(and don't be scared by reviews, this set is absolutely banging -- donna sounds GRATE, the bass and drum interaction is undeniably hot -- JERRY is in high spirits -- this JAM is fall off your seat and wriggle goooodnes! -- ATTN: SONS AND DAUGHTERS of the LIGHT == Tower Theatre, PA, June 21, 1976.

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Poster: elbow1126 Date: Jul 26, 2008 4:30am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Don't forget the next night!

Crazy Fingers>Comes A Time in the first set, Eyes>Dancin' in the second. No doubt that 76 had its own unique magic.